[Two days ago I posted an
item based on a news agency report about a question and answer on Lockerbie in the House of Lords. The full
Hansard report of the exchange is now available. It reads as follows:]
Asked By Lord Selkirk of Douglas:
To ask Her Majesty's Government whether they
will continue to make representations to the National Transitional
Council of Libya to make available any evidence in their possession
concerning the attack on Pan Am flight 103 over Lockerbie in 1988 to the
Lord Advocate and the Scottish police to assist their investigation.
The Minister of State, Foreign and Commonwealth Office (Lord Howell of Guildford):
My Lords, the Government will continue to support the Dumfries and
Galloway Constabulary's investigation into the Lockerbie bombing. We
will approach Libya's newly formed transitional Government about getting
the Dumfries and Galloway police back to Libya at the earliest
opportunity to take forward their investigations. The National
Transitional Council chairman, Abdul Jalil, has assured my right
honourable friend the Prime Minister that the new Libyan authorities
will co-operate with the UK on this and other ongoing investigations.
Lord Selkirk of Douglas:
While I welcome the Minister's statement, does he believe that the
recent capture of Colonel Gaddafi's intelligence chief, Abdullah
al-Senussi, and of the intelligence archives in Tripoli, may finally
provide the vital information that would assist the Lord Advocate with
his ongoing inquiries? I ask this question as one of the two former
Ministers who were at the crime scene within a few hours and who met
some of the relatives shortly afterwards. In order to bring closure to
the families of 270 victims, is it not highly desirable that they should
learn from any new evidence exactly what happened 23 years ago, and
precisely what the background was to this monstrous crime?
Lord Howell of Guildford:
Yes, it is desirable and yes, indeed, it was the most monstrous crime.
We are seeking confirmation from the Libyan Government regarding the
reported detention of Abdullah al-Senussi. We have been clear that no
effort should be spared in bringing him to justice. Al-Senussi's arrest,
if confirmed, would offer an opportunity to uncover the truth behind
some of the former regime's dreadful crimes. As I just said, the
Government will continue to support the Dumfries and Galloway
Constabulary's investigation into the bombing. We would want any new
evidence to be made available to it and indeed to the Lord Advocate. I
am confident that the new Libyan Government will act in accordance with
Chairman Jalil's commitment
to co-operate with the UK on this and other investigations, and bring
closure to the concerns and misery of the families of the victims.
Lord Steel of Aikwood:
My Lords, would my noble friend agree that it would also shed light on
this matter if the report of the Scottish Criminal Cases Review
Commission were published in full, so far as is possible?
Lord Howell of Guildford:
Of course, there has been the report of Sir Gus O'Donnell. It has been
placed in the Library and it was fully discussed when it was produced
some weeks ago. Further light needs to be shed on this and I am
confident that, with the full assistance of the new Libyan Government,
we will get the papers and the evidence to show exactly what was said
and by whom.
Lord Empey:
My Lords, can the Minister tell us that in addition to pursuing the
issue of Lockerbie, the Government will rigorously and vigorously pursue
the issue of compensation for all UK victims who were damaged by
weapons supplied to the IRA by the Gaddafi regime and that the
Government themselves will lead those negotiations rather than leaving
them to third parties?
Lord Howell of Guildford:
At present we are looking at all possible options with the Libyan
Government to get a resolution on the legacy issues, including this one,
which is certainly a very high priority. It is very early days for the
new Libyan Government as they have only just been appointed, but we want
to see a broad proposal for embracing questions of compensation,
reconciliation and, indeed, investment in Northern Ireland. We are
trying to develop a broad approach with, and led by, the Libyan
Government.
Lord Elystan-Morgan:
My Lords, does the Minister agree that it is utterly natural and
inevitable that parliaments the world over should seek to have as much
light as possible cast upon the perpetrators of the Lockerbie bombing?
However, technically speaking, a request should be made formally by the
Scottish Parliament themselves-bearing in mind, of course, the transfer
of jurisdiction in relation to that. As for this Parliament, could the
same principle not also apply to casting light upon those who were
responsible for the murder of WPC Yvonne Fletcher?
Lord Howell of Guildford: On the second point about WPC
Yvonne Fletcher, that is most certainly so. We are in touch with the
Metropolitan Police about reopening their investigations into the
perpetrators of that hideous crime. On the former question, the decision
was made by the devolved Scottish Government and it is a matter for
them to pursue. We have indicated that the Government in London will
give full assistance to the devolved Government in pursuing their
inquiries.
Lord Stoddart of Swindon:
My Lords, can the noble Lord inform us about the state of health of Mr
Al Megrahi, who was released by the Scottish authorities on the grounds
that he had only six months to live?
Lord Howell of Guildford: We have passed a request from
the devolved Administration to the Libyan chargé d'affaires in London
asking that the supervision arrangements of Al Megrahi's licence are
observed. Part of the investigation by the Dumfries and Galloway police
will also embrace the question of his condition, but we are awaiting the
precise details of his health from the Libyan Government now.
Lord Selkirk of Douglas:
Does the Minister accept that the Lord Advocate has put in a formal
request to the National Transitional Council and that a statement has
been issued by the Crown Office to the effect that the trial court of Mr
Al Megrahi accepted that he did not act alone?
Lord Howell of Guildford:
I am not sure that I can comment on my noble friend's second point, but
it is certainly correct that the Lord Advocate has put in a formal
request, and indeed has made that absolutely clear to my right
honourable friend the Foreign Secretary. We are collaborating closely on
this.