tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1073021351804532798.post4834550056508498108..comments2024-03-15T06:02:30.623+00:00Comments on The Lockerbie Case: Ex-minister says Gadhafi ordered LockerbieRobert Blackhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03606456028430261555noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1073021351804532798.post-34379963545377560402011-02-25T00:44:47.996+00:002011-02-25T00:44:47.996+00:00Jo, thanks for pointing that out. I doubt our Prsi...Jo, thanks for pointing that out. I doubt our Prsident Obama would just step aside for the will of the people if some Tea Party revolution was trying to force him to, even non-violently. I think the military would be called in, just after another diktat to a third world bad guy to step aside peacefully. <br /><br />That's not to excuse anyone, of course. <br /><br />And of course Mr. Jalil is almost certainly full of it, another Giaka for a different time. He might even have a piece of paper to back up his story, and oh boy will that be proof tenfold for most people. But his supposed evidence of a 3-D world order goes against the evidence of the 3-D attack while fusing nicely with the paper version so cherished by his desired new protectors.Caustic Logichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03082923821952309709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1073021351804532798.post-46729721953365612642011-02-24T23:00:47.254+00:002011-02-24T23:00:47.254+00:00And now on QT Blair has been forgiven for becoming...And now on QT Blair has been forgiven for becoming friends with Gadaffi again because he persuaded him to turn away from developing nuclear weapons. Suddenly Blair is Mother Teresa!Jo Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08536467440869239587noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1073021351804532798.post-5865085145189538072011-02-24T20:32:04.011+00:002011-02-24T20:32:04.011+00:00The other thing is Danny, that the case at Zeist c...The other thing is Danny, that the case at Zeist centred on Megrahi, not Gaddafi and there is a report here in Scotland by the SCCRC which raises 6 grounds suggesting a miscarriage of justice could have occurred during the trial. Isn't it frightening that the UK press are willing to (again) set those issues aside in favour of one very scared man's claims regarding a leader he has served for how long? <br /><br />The other picture I grow increasingly sick of in recent days is one involving various UK politicians taking the moral high ground over foreign leaders not behaving democratically. The Tories were the first Party to block off access to Downing Street. Blair continued the practice. I'm wondering how Cameron would react to several million British citizens assembling in London demanding that he cancels his vile attacks on the poor of this country in the face of recession and goes for the bankers instead. Would he call that the democratic will of the people and cave in? I don't think so.Jo Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08536467440869239587noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1073021351804532798.post-53842209471670033202011-02-24T00:57:02.992+00:002011-02-24T00:57:02.992+00:00I agree Jo, in the eyes of the world it is now est...I agree Jo, in the eyes of the world it is now established fact that Gaddafi was the bomber's commander, regardless that the witness has been doling out 'justice' for Gaddafi until his position became untenable in the past few days.<br /><br />Yet there has been no evidence, let alone proof, in the Swedish tabloid, nor will there be tommorow. <br /><br />I think it is extremely dubious that the newly reformed minister claims that Gaddafi did all he could to free Al Megrahi - which he did -to protect himself. Al Megrhai was appealling his conviction, and thus protecting Gaddifi if the allegation is true, in the face of cancer and the Scottish prison system until he was forced to drop the appeal. If Megrahi was the agent of Gaddafi then he was an unbelieveably loyal agent who was sacrificing his own best interests for his dictator. <br /><br />In short, I think Al Megrahi is more credible than Al Jeleil judging from their actions over the past few years.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10248702253172699561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1073021351804532798.post-8891366085070853152011-02-23T23:00:26.870+00:002011-02-23T23:00:26.870+00:00The operative word there being credible Danny. I&...The operative word there being credible Danny. I've just heard the late news announcing there is now proof Gaddafi ordered the atrocity at Lockerbie. This will just grow arms and legs.Jo Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08536467440869239587noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1073021351804532798.post-55109018736868836282011-02-23T22:31:05.558+00:002011-02-23T22:31:05.558+00:00Have you read the tabloid article being quoted wor...Have you read the tabloid article being quoted world-wide uncritically tonight? It consists solely of the minister claiming to have proof, next to other 'scoops' such as "Clooney: I have had sex with too many". The full forty minute interview will be published in print tommorow but obviously won't contain the 'proof' itself or that would have been mentioned today. An English language Swedish newspaper, The Local, quotes Aron Lund of yet another Swedish newspaper, Upsala Nya Tidning, who also writes for the Middle East for Swedish Institute of International Affairs.<br />"At the same, considering Al Jeleil just left the regime, there may be a credibility issue. It could be that these sorts of leaks from former members of the regimes are more about distancing themselves from Gadaffi as than revealing the truth."<br /><br />Given the millions of dollars paid to dodgy witnesses during the trial, the tampering of evidence during the investigation, and bearing in mind the recent unrepent confession of 'Curveball' in manufacturing evidence to overthrow Saddam Hussien, it seems quite a smart move by Gaddafi's 'Justice Minister' to claim to have 'proof' of Al Megrahi's guilt. Any such evidence though only accenuates the need for an independent international investigation to examine it impartially. We don't need proof that Gaddafi is a cold-blooded killer, a fact that must only be surprising to the Peter Mandelsons, Tony Blairs and Nat Rothchilds of this English high society, but we do need proof of involvement in this case, and we need a credible panel to examine it.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10248702253172699561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1073021351804532798.post-50613973959091665562011-02-23T21:43:19.361+00:002011-02-23T21:43:19.361+00:00Thank you Patrick.Thank you Patrick.Jo Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08536467440869239587noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1073021351804532798.post-29860877953997618942011-02-23T21:28:13.488+00:002011-02-23T21:28:13.488+00:00MISSION LOCKERBIE, 2011, doc. nr.1058.rtf, google ...MISSION LOCKERBIE, 2011, doc. nr.1058.rtf, google translation german/english:<br /><br />An interesting purposeful *ASSERTION at the right time, from the Former Libyan Justice Minister Mohamed Mustafa Abud Al Jeleil. <br />Thus, there must not be a problem for the Scottish Parliament and the First Minister Alex Salmond, to open the secret documents of the Scottish Criminal Cases Reappeal Commission (SCCRC) and the document under National Security (PII) ? <br /><br />The world waiting on clean evidence --- or does it mean that this *ASSERTION with a new deal was completed with a unknown "Security Service" ...?<br />+++<br /><br />Eine interessante gezielte *Behauptung zur richtigen Zeit, von "Former Libyan Justice Minister Mustafa Mohamed Abud Al Jeleil". <br />Somit muss es für das "Scottish Parliament" und "First Minister Alex Salmond" kein Problem sein, die geheimen Dokumente der "Scottish Criminal Cases Reappeal Commission" (SCCRC) und das Dokument unter "National Security" (PII) offen zulegen ? <br />Die Welt warted auf saubere Beweise --- oder bedeuted das, dass mit dieser *BEHAUPTUNG bereits ein neuer Deal mit einem "Security Service" ausgehandelt. wurde...?<br /><br />by Edwin Bollier, MEBO Ltd Switzerland. URL: www.lockerbie.chebolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12681382726604052927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1073021351804532798.post-18099873639508655852011-02-23T20:35:33.487+00:002011-02-23T20:35:33.487+00:00There are at least 37 different spellings of his n...There are at least 37 different spellings of his <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muammar_al-Gaddafi#Name" rel="nofollow">name</a>, Jo G.<br /><br /><i>Muammar Gaddafi</i> is the spelling used by TIME magazine, BBC News, the majority of the British press and by the English service of Al-Jazeera.<br /><br />(I was the main author of this section of Wikipedia's Gaddafi biography, and can therefore claim some credit for the - almost - standardised spelling of his name in the media.)Patrick Haseldinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10133417620510887039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1073021351804532798.post-6248427611719185082011-02-23T20:19:42.368+00:002011-02-23T20:19:42.368+00:00Very prescient of you, Robert, to post that piece ...Very prescient of you, Robert, to post that piece yesterday.<br /><br /><a href="http://lockerbiecase.blogspot.com/2011/02/cruel-vainglorious-steeped-in-blood-and.html?showComment=1298460970057#c5056364728068396178" rel="nofollow">As you know</a>, I'm waiting for press reports from Libya of Abdelbaset al-Megrahi confessing on his deathbed that he was guilty all along, before being executed by an out-of-control crazed anti-Gaddafi protester (or Western intelligence agent - take your pick).<br /><br />Worldwide condemnation of Megrahi's execution would then ensue, led by former British Foreign Secretary <a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/former-mi6-spy-joins-armor-group-to-hunt-down-new-business-412794.html" rel="nofollow">Sir Malcolm Rifkind</a>.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.facebook.com/pages/Patrick-Haseldine/155801911120546?v=wall" rel="nofollow">Patrick Haseldine</a>Patrick Haseldinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10133417620510887039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1073021351804532798.post-16944959502269666082011-02-23T20:15:24.429+00:002011-02-23T20:15:24.429+00:00I wonder how many different spellings there are of...I wonder how many different spellings there are of Gaddafi's name.Jo Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08536467440869239587noreply@blogger.com